Tuesday, November 26, 2013

One of my friends on facebook wrote this precept on her wall: 
Newton's third law states that "For every action there is an opposite and equal reaction." Evolutionists have yet to figure out how the big bang is possible when there was no action to provide the reaction..


Dennis....  There is only one answer to what caused the big bang.........God.

(Beware of what you post for, 
some souls are just looking for 
a way out , an excuse. or a prey.)


Franklin....  Wow. U must be proud of your observation. Your logic of course will seem so agreeable and will even resound true BUT NOT to the scientifically literate. U sound like a human in the stone and middle ages. "Oh there's a plague, therefore the cause must be god." "Oh the Earth must be the center of the solar system." Conclusions like these--putting god in every mysterious thing--though may seem logical to the untrained mind, are demonstrably incorrect. Newton's Laws, does not exactly apply to things of smallest scales and at very high speeds--in explaining phenomena such as photon, entanglement and superconductivity. Instead of overly perusing your bible, try reading more about relativity, quantum mechanics and quantum entanglement and learn to investigate and see how Newton's laws does not apply--not all effects have a necessary cause--including the universe. In fact, they found that god is NOT necessary to address the issue of how the universe began--the conclusion that the big bang must be caused by god is NOT backed by any single piece of evidence. No physicist who is worthy of Nobel Prize nomination for science even suggested a god hypothesis. I suggest learn about virtual particles that pop in and out of existence without a cause and you may find that because something exists, it doesn't mean, it must be god. Your conclusions are blatantly erroneous and represents nothing but intellectual laziness exacerbated by your religious delusions

(Franklin is partly right; “ the conclusion that the big bang must be caused by god 
is NOT backed by any single piece of evidence”; because the BIG BANG 
by itself is “NOT backed by any single piece of evidence”.)

Jacqueline....  WoW.. all i can say is WoW and Thank You, most of all God Bless You !  Franklin.... Keep ur god's blessings to yourself... I don’t need any from a genocidal imaginary god... Jacqueline....  \\frm a genocidal imaginary god... in GOD‘s Righteous and Just Judgment we all deserved it (Romans 3:23, 6:23a); if you look at someone with lust, that‘s adultery, if you hate and curse your enemy, that‘s killing, if you took someone‘s property even if its fr good reason, that‘s still stealing, if you ‘white‘-lied to someone, that‘s still a lie, these are just 4 laws, if you broke any one from these 4, it means you broke His law and therefore deserved to be in His death row. Imaginary God? no He isn’t..you just intentionally overlooked Him fr some obvious reasons.  Franklin.... So u r now condoning killing of those who don’t believe as u do. Way to admit the righteousness of the holocaust or the killing of enemies of Israel.. So the infants and children ordered to be killed by ur god is also acceptable to u by virtue of your reasoning? Jacqueline .... holocaust? am i condoning it? no, i didn’t? but it taught me how mankind has fallen, how mankind desperately needs a Savior from their wickedness.. \\enemies of Israel?// of which are you talking about? their enemies before they conquered the promised land, the ‘Palestinian‘ people, or the future enemy of Israel (that the Bible said the nations of the world who will against Israel)? children and infants? oh I’ll give you one, the first born children of Egypt fr example... God did n‘t just ordered it for no reason, unlike how pro abortionist allowed killing babies.. He ordered it, because of the stubbornness, unbelief and hardened heart of pharaoh for refusing to set the Israelites free; God‘s faithfulness to His promises to the Israelites and a symbolic of How JESUS‘ death, the first born of all creation will be the means of mankind‘s freedom from sin. everything happened and written in the Bible has purpose, it‘s His way to teach us, to communicate to us, unless u cherry picked up and use them as your excuse fr some personal interests.Franklin.... Yup, exactly what a genocidal, infanticide, imaginary god would order his delusional chosen people... Jacqueline.... When a plane crashes and some die while others live, a skeptic calls into question God's moral character, saying that he has chosen some to live and others to die on a whim; yet you say it is your moral right to choose whether the child within you should live or die. Does that not sound odd to you? When God decides who should live or die, he is immoral. When you decide who should live or die, it's your moral right.~Ravi Zacharias  [[ you can mock Him and call Him anything, you can ignore Him and convince yourself He doesn‘t exists and ignore all the evidences (History of Israel is one proof) because of the Truth that’s hard to accept, it wouldn‘t change the fact that we are nothing, and yet it‘s bec of HIS Grace that‘s why we are still here. ArlenKali .... BANG!!!?..courage and patience is not a virtue of one who is in delusion Jacq...Good luck!:-)
  I mentioned patience for it is a virtue by which practically I have none. And I’ve made my comment subtle and short to avoid complete involvement in the confrontation. But Franklin seemingly is very much aware of my existence.
Franklin.... History of israel as evidence to the existence of god?? Haha. I guess the indian peoples history then provides truth of the Mahabharata or the existence of Krishna. Surely deluded...
(His laughter was a roar of challenge,a sign that I was most welcome, so I entered the arena of the bitter debate.Aikido, a martial arts that uses the force of one’s opponent against that opponent; in boxing, a counter puncher. The idea is to put the opponent in a small circle and attack him on his base to keep him off balance;To keep him there, to not allow him to run. Also, find the extreme of his weakness and use it against him.A delusional man used the word delusion against us, so I threw it back to him.)
ArlenKali .. you know that those who speak of things that they don't believe are delusional Frank, why waste your time fighting against that you don't even believe? for me, the big bang is a dead forgotten subject so i don’t even think of it...but. it’s your freedom to believe and deal with it on your own wall.
 (I believe it hit him, for it took him too long to respond; and he uses drama to dramatized and justifies his belief. But his drama only proves that he is lost, for if his compassion is real,how can he be of help, if all he sees is darkness and evil.He is actually trying to run by bringing out other issues.)
Franklin.... Because these religious beliefs r being forced as science in schools.. Being used to deny girls education... Being used to kill and exorcise and abuse gays in some countries... Being used to deny women rights to drive or to contraception... Being used to abortion een in life threatening situations... Being used to fly planes in buildings.. Etc etc... U may want to look up what delusion means, and find its not about speaking of things one doesn’t believe in, but about strongly believing in something for which there is without conclusive evidence...
(I was off-line when he replied, and when I came back,one of Jacqueline’s friend has some relevant inputs.)
Emsie.... Oh no! Religion is real and happening all over the world... Why not teach it? All people got religion.. We all have a right to choose what we want to believe... We respect other beliefs... Atheist is a religion as well.. Because: Religion is a collection of beliefs, cultural systems, and world views that relate humanity to an order of existence. Franklin.... Wrong. Saying Atheism is a religion is like saying OFF is a TV Channel. Or that not believing in Zeus or Santa is a religion. I do agree that religious studies should be taught in schools, but not based on faith, instead based on comparing religion vs another religion vs having no religion... No single religion should be taught as if it's the truth even if its not. Kids should be given all these options and be taught critical thinking to think for themselves given all evidence-based information.
The painting (my part of the task) was finished,and all I need is some strokes of finishing touches…the final blow.
ArlenKali.... you speak of what you believe Frank, and you are extremely delusional for going against whom you don't even believe exist.... And understandably, you know nothing about the world religion for if you do, you would have known that actually , by the way you fought for what you believe, you are very religious.
Speed and accuracy and the word of the decade is compact. Precise and concrete, there is nothing as dramatic as of one solid blow. Furthermore, I added the word “extremely” to signal him that more delusions are coming to him if he would not stop.
Franklin...I know more than an average religious person. I've been religious myself in the past so you cannot throw that stone to me. Again, learn the definition of delusion..
He knows more than an average religious personbut he is not religious;he claimed that he was once a religious person, which is a claim of no real religious person;and he uses the biblical stone by Christ (something that for him also doesn't exist)to support his irreligious belief. He is inconsistent and his argument is full of contradictions.“Like an unsharpened pencil his point has no point.” Furthermore, a double-delusional,His delusion exceeds the meaning of delusion.


By his reply, i sensed that he was broken, the game is over, he is running away,and this time I let him go. I did not respond; but rather, for him being such a courageous opponent, I liked his last reply. However, Miss Emsie has more to say to him